Driving a BMW Rear Wheel Drive in the Winter Snow and Ice

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By Mark Ewbie

There must be two inches of ice in that bump.  I mean what sort of car could possibly get over that?
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There must be two inches of ice in that bump. I mean what sort of car could possibly get over that?
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Why Are BMW's Rubbish in Winter?

How come the world’s best car is rubbish, dangerous and useless when a bit of snow and ice appears?

This article explores some of the reality of BMW winter driving, looks at reasons for their poor performance, and considers the solutions.

It is written from a UK perspective where we have occasional snow, winter tyres are an unfamiliar concept and the four wheel drive BMW is a rarity rather than the norm.


"Brother Gary's Beemer is stuck on the M25 in one inch of snow but he hopes we have a good supper"
"Brother Gary's Beemer is stuck on the M25 in one inch of snow but he hopes we have a good supper"
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"She wouldn't have left me if I'd bought her a 4 x 4, it's all the fault of that One Series"
"She wouldn't have left me if I'd bought her a 4 x 4, it's all the fault of that One Series"
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Two disappointed owners

First of all, a couple of experiences of the lunacy that a BMW on ice represents.

My neighbour attempts to drive to the shops in her BMW One Series.

She gets stuck on the camber of the road with the car sliding all over the place. It is going sideways rather than forward, and cannot get over the massive incline that a normal road camber suddenly represents.

She gives up, car is in the middle of the road, and asks me for help. I am confident - I am an experienced (and rather good in my opinion) driver, and she is a woman. I don’t say that of course.

I don’t drive a rear wheel drive.

After five or ten minutes of gently trying to persuade this piece of utter crap on wheels to navigate the icy road I give up. I reverse it into a passable imitation of a deliberate piece of parking – it’s off to the side of the road, no longer blocking it – and there is no hope of driving it anywhere or putting it back on her drive.

When I use my front wheel drive Toyota, no problem at all. Any skidding is purely for fun – I love doing handbrake turns when the roads are iced up. Yeah OK, I’m just a big kid – but when no ones about, and the roads are sheet ice – it’s an opportunity to practice controlled idiocy.


"Learn how to recognise the sort of person who doesn't buy winter tyres for a rear wheel drive car"
"Learn how to recognise the sort of person who doesn't buy winter tyres for a rear wheel drive car"
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The million mile driver

A colleague of mine has driven about one million miles over thirty years.

If I were to point to what I would call an experienced driver, he would be it.

He has had a variety of company cars – one every three years for thirty years – and does thirty thousand odd miles a year.

Two years ago he got a BMW 3 series – good mileage, low CO2 and all round ticks the boxes for company taxation benefits.

He says he will never get a BMW again. In winter it is an absolute menace with loss of grip, a no goer in the ice and snow – he sees it as dangerous.

His company won’t stump up the extra money for winter tyres so he will suffer this car until it is time for the next model.


BMW Sales Spiel

"Yes Sir, these are the best cars money can buy.  A drivers machine, engineered, precision, expensive.  Winter driving? Oh well, you'll need to buy another car if you want to do that"
"Yes Sir, these are the best cars money can buy. A drivers machine, engineered, precision, expensive. Winter driving? Oh well, you'll need to buy another car if you want to do that"
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What’s the Problem?

I can’t believe that BMW’s are rubbish cars. They are desired by many drivers, and they are great to drive.

So why do they turn into an object of ridicule over winter?

The BMW driver is the one parked up, or sliding across the road – while the theoretically crappy 1.1 Panda sails serenely along – unaffected by a bit of snow or ice.

One theory is that BMW drivers are badge obsessed morons, who don’t know how to drive properly. Well, OK, that’s a theory, but it doesn’t help much when you have gently tried to negotiate a road camber in the ice using years of driving experience.

Let’s ignore that and put it down to the opposite of badge obsession – badge jealousy.


The main problems are…


Rubber - the compound for summer tyres is effective down to about 7 degrees Celcius. Below that it hardens rapidly. The winter tyre silica rubber mix is optmised for lower temperatures.


Rear wheel drive – an eye opener for someone like me who drives a front wheel drive. I could not believe how much harder to control a spinning back wheel is compared to a spinning front wheel.


Weight distribution – the perfect 50/50 of the BMW’s is not as good as the engine over the front wheel drive arrangement for winter conditions.


Tyre width – there are complex (to me) arguments about grip distribution and the actions on snow. I’m not a physicist.


Run flat tyres – I am dubious about these anyway. They seem like a compromise to me, or maybe I’m just being old fashioned.


Performance – the BMW tends not to be a gentle car to drive, it is a power machine.


One of the key elements, and one that is hard to get round, is that in cold weather the rubber of the summer tyre hardens. It becomes naturally less grippy, at a time of year with leaves, wet, ice and snow when you need it most.


Hmmm.  How much does a set of winter tyres cost for a BMW?
Hmmm. How much does a set of winter tyres cost for a BMW?
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Solutions - Cheap

There are a few short cuts which might improve things, or might make your car even more dangerous.

These are purely down to you, and your experimentation.


Driving technique. All the old boring stuff about starting in second gear, being gentle, leaving lots of space, anticipation. All very well and good, but if the car cannot negotiate an icy camber on a road, it doesn’t really matter how skilled a driver you are.


Weight in the boot. Sandbags, cement, kerbstones – anything that gives a degree of extra weight over the rear wheels will probably help traction. At first I thought that would be a great idea until I read about weight distribution and the need to be able to steer as well as move forward!

If you overload the rear weight, you may compromise the steering at the other end.


Deflate the tyres slightly. It might help, but it is not an area I would want to get into. You buy a perfectly made balanced driving machine, and then fiddle about with it to persuade it to run ‘safely’ in winter conditions. I don’t believe this is a sensible or safe solution.


Wheel gloves. These are emergency, get you home, solutions for a bit of snow. They do not offer months of safe winter driving, they will last for a few miles that’s all.


BMW Winter Tyres - How Much?
BMW Winter Tyres - How Much?
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Solutions – Winter Tyres – Expensive

I believe a set of winter tyres for a One series comes in at about one thousand pounds. That includes wheels as well, because they have different dimensions to the usual wheels.

Note. I'm not sure about the dimensions being different. It may be because they are run flats, see below.

At first glance that seems ridiculous, and of course it is, but then you get used to an amount of excessive pricing with BMW. It’s how they make their money.

Winter tyres would appear to be the right solution, although costly.

In Germany, they are required by law to change to winter tyres for several months. Overall the tyre wear is half as much as normal, because you change twice a year, so the total cost is not much more than just using one set of normal tyres.

There is no such law in the UK, and winter tyres are still a bit of a rarity. Unless you have been struggling with your BMW over the last couple of hard UK winters.

It might be possible to pick up a set of second hand winter tyres for your model, or to cut a more reasonable deal with a local garage.

In my opinion, having read as much information as I can bear on the subject, winter tyres are the only option to keep running through the bad winter periods.


Other Less Likely Solutions

Get rid of your BMW and buy something else. After the experience of winter driving this is an attractive idea. But it’s costly to change for something that should just work.


Buy a winter runabout – a secondhand front wheel drive anything – that works in bad conditions. In all seriousness, a piece of ‘crap’ like a 1.1 Fiat will out perform your Beemer. Five hundred pounds and up, plus road tax, insurance, and so on.


Don’t go anywhere. “I won’t be in today, I have a BMW” – a great excuse (not) for avoiding work and social engagements during the winter months.


Run Flat Winter Tyres

A little bit more info on these.

Why do you have to buy steel wheels, steels, when it would seem all you need to do is swap the summer tyres with the winter ones and then back again?

It's because run flats are special. They 'might' come off and back on again perfectly well. Or they might not.

So the proper way to do it is to get a spare set of wheels with the winter tyres on, and swap the whole lot come spring or autumn.

The price these tyres are anyway who would want to risk having a few fail when it comes to putting them back on?



Traction Tip

From Dom in the comments.

If you need extra wheel grip to get out of a stuck situation, try turning off the traction control.

This should give you more control over what the wheels are doing.

"This thing handles worse than a BMW 3 series"
"This thing handles worse than a BMW 3 series"
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One Neat Trick

If you are stuck on an incline with loss of traction it ‘might’ be possible to gain extra traction by using the handbrake.

Apparently it is possible that one rear wheel can be slipping, while the other is not doing anything due to the slip differential (whatever that is).

By using the handbrake, gently!, it can slow down the spinning wheel and divert some power towards the non moving wheel.

In theory this might enable both rear wheels to put some effort in.

I haven’t tried this, it sounds a bit ‘rally’ style to me, but I am prepared to be very impressed if someone masters it.


Emergency Supplies

A lot of cat litter was sold last year. And salt.

Buy now while stocks last.

The cat litter is not for use inside your car if you are, er, stuck without a toilet – it’s for scattering under the rear drive wheels to get some quick grip and get moving.

I’ll add to this list when I get stuck and remember the things I should have brought with me.

Winter coat, drinks, something to wee in, torch, charged phone, keep that fuel topped up, and so on.


UK Weather Note

For overseas visitors.

The UK doesn’t normally get a lot of snow.

We are unable to deal with it.

One inch is enough to cause absolute traffic chaos.

I believe we had two whole inches a while back and drivers were stuck in their cars for twelve hours overnight.


That's probably why the Ancient Britons built Stickhenge....



Stickhenge
Stickhenge
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Comments

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snakeslane Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

Something to wee in? brilliant! I agree the Toyota is the best car to drive in snow. Whatever you drive winter tires are worth the money. You can leave them on year round. Regards snakeslane

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

I was thinking of the shewee or shepee especially, plus a large bottle or similar. It may sound bizarre but to anyone stuck for hours on a road with no hedges...

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Paradise7 Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

I like the "don't go anywhere" solution, myself, in the winter. Hah!

Most of the BMW upstate New Yorkers have a second car, like a Hummer or a tank or an Arctic Cat, for winter driving.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

I guess they get more snow than us.

We get an average of an inch a year, although its been worse the last two.

When that inch falls we immediately skate off the road or fall over and break something. Those left standing buy a sled they will use once only in their lifetime and try to break a leg. All our motorways close, and the schools shut. People are stranded for weeks in small cottages in Scotland.

Two days later the country floods as the inch of snow melts.

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Twilight Lawns Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

I have another solution (No pun intended - but I agree with the pee container).

Look out of your window on a day that looks a little too white for comfort, and stay indoors until the Spring.

I have a Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 Elite, and I had only had it a short time last year when the snow stuff came. I am terrified of driving in the snow. I don't like walking in the stuff. It's not my cup of tea (neither is a cup of tea - I prefer coffee).

But talking of coffee, which is a diuretic, guess what popular (sort of) hubber took his friend to a charity shop on Saturday, just having had a coffee and having taken a diuretic.

Friend took ages looking around for bargains, and hubber had to drive to a local common TWICE because of the pain.

So Mr Ewbie, apart from "driving in snow" tips, could you possibly write a useful hub concerning "CONTAINERS FOR THE USE OF WHEN TRAVELLING LONG DISTANCES OR WHEN STUCK IN A CAR IN THE SNOW IN A BUILT UP AREA"?

Thank you.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

Well, no pun intended, but there could be some mileage in that. Many is the time I have been travelling and found myself on the edge praying that a service station will appear.

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Twilight Lawns Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

Attaboy!

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FloraBreenRobison 6 months ago

As someone with bad balance on ice, I think the don't go anywhere solution would be a great option. You could also take a taxi-let someone else drive.

I don't have a driver's licence myself. As a passenger, there are several cars I won't go near in the winter. The BMW would be one. For sure. I prefer vehicles like trucks or vans-you know, with weight in them.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

Well yes Flora, there is one thing worse than driving, and that's being driven.

Especially for a driver.

I am a very bad passenger, my foot is operating a secret brake pedal half the time, and the rest of the time I'm wondering if I can grab the steering wheel in case the driver makes yet another mistake.

I think I'd like a 4x4 in the winter, a big one.

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Green Lotus Level 6 Commenter 6 months ago

This one is new to me since I live in a place where no one drives if there are snow flurries, let alone real snow. They even close the schools. (not kidding). You should see the chaos on the roads - unbelievable - Fiats included. OK, I have to admit I am a BMW fan, but really, the only suitable vehicle here is one with tire chains or snow tires. I am surprised that there are simple passenger cars that can make it on hilly terrains in snow and ice without them.

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Simone Smith Level 8 Commenter 6 months ago

Boy, am I ever glad to not own a car! Or live somewhere where it snows! Though if I did... I guess I might be a bit less likely to die...

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

Hi Simone. I can't help feeling that this article probably wasn't aimed at you. Still, if one day you get a BMW and move somewhere where it snows a lot then perhaps you'll remember those winter tyres, or the body in the boot trick.

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Samuel Songungou Level 1 Commenter 6 months ago

Don't blame BMW for that my friend. They aren't rubbish! In fact, BMWs are the best car to drive(hope you've tested it). The thing is that, they weren't designed to drive in snow. A 4*4 would be the best to drive in snowy conditions. And yes, Audi got the all wheel drive quattro option on every model. You may ask your friend to get an audi if he wants to cruise on snowy roads with luxury. Thanks!

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 6 months ago

I agree with what you say... but... I think BMW in the UK at least should point out to their customers that winter tyres are an extra essential part of the overall cost.

I will find out how they drive with these tyres fitted, and report back. But I expect they will be fine.

In Germany they just swap their tyres every winter, put a bag of sand in the boot, and carry on as usual.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

This is so true Mark. I live in Guernsey in the Channel Islands, and we get snow even more rarely than the UK mainland. I have owned 2 BMW's now, a 316i and a 528, both automatics, both lovely cars in the non-snowy weather, both absolutely hopeless in the snow. Yes, I too have done the sideways sliding across the road, desperately trying to get traction back. I am a qualified double decker bus driver, so know how to drive in snow, and BMW's are awful in it. Nowadays I have a lovely little Toyota Rav 4 jeep, perfect in the snow, ice, mud anything. I will never go back to BMW's now, jeeps do everything it says on the tin :)

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks Misty.. and from a double decker bus driver too!

I was just watching the UK snow news and they had the obligatory shot of a car being pushed out of the snow by photogenic people. It was a BMW, which gave me a wry smile.

I do think there should be some kind of warning in the salesrooms - no one buys a car thinking it could be useless in the tiny bit of snow we get here.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

LOL, I love the comment about "the obligatory shot of a car being pushed out of the snow by photogenic people.", I will be looking out for those shots from now on :)

We are at a double disadvantage in Guernsey as they are never, ever, prepared enough when it comes to the half inch of snow that falls every four or five years. Result is all schools close down, no-one goes to work, bus services stop (I used to drive in England where the buses carried on until it got quite bad), salt and grit for the roads quickly runs out etc. Essentially for one or two days everyone ends up stranded in their houses unless they have a jeep or a 4x4.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

If you know it's coming though and get stocked up, warm the house and accept being stuck... it can be a nice time.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

No chance, our house is freezing anyway (Landlord provides crap heating), and I have 4 toboggans in the shed we have never used yet so I want to try them out LOL.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

Four! That's a lot of toboggans. A big plus point for me today was using my snow shovel. I managed to get out, do my back in, clear some snow and all before it melted.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

We were offered them in good condition for £5 each last year when about 6 flakes of snow fell. We hoped more snow would follow..... it didn't, so now they reside bored and frustrated in our shed awaiting the next snowfall we ever get. Luckily they are plastic so they won't rot away before that happens :)

So glad you got to use your snow shovel before the snow melted, but hope your back is better soon ;)

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks Misty. It will be better the moment my wife accepts I overdid it and lets me off the vacuuming.

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BRIAN SLATER Level 5 Commenter 3 months ago

Are Mark, the blessings of rear wheel drive, you have exposed them for what they are. Love adding a kerb stone and the comment. something to pee in... classic

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

It's something I feel they should add to their sales literature. They could BMW brand the kerbstone and the piss pot.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

LOL, just noticed that on both your hub and my most recent hub, one of the last adverts below the main text is to 'Ask a BMW Mechanic Online'. I can understand it on your hub, but what on earth it has to do with the 'Blood Sucking Creatures' on mine I have no idea.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

I know, it's that Google follows you around thing. Only ever read stuff that's about your subject area. Bit invasive I think, although I don't worry about it too much.

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mistyhorizon2003 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Golly, I am glad I don't frequent porn sites then LOL.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

Yeah, me too. Cough, cough.

Dom 3 months ago

Here's a good tip for those with traction control. If you get stuck on an incline, turn it off! Seriously it works to get you moving.

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks Dom, that's something I should have mentioned. It's one of those things that I kind of know, and then forget about when I need it.

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biancaalice Level 3 Commenter 2 months ago

aww I have a beemer... lol, but no snow because I live in southern cali. I would freak out if I got stuck in the snow!

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Mark Ewbie Hub Author 2 months ago

Lol, well that's the secret. Buy Beemer, move to California. Sounds very good to me.

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Twilight Lawns Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

New BMWs don't pay Fuel Emission Tax.

New BMWs don't pay Road Tax.

New BMWs don't pay the Congestion Charge.

I drive a Vauxhall Zafira Elite 1.9 diesel.

I don't pay all of those either...

I also drive a Blue Badge.

Ha ha!

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